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On the DATA front my understanding is many cellular devices will keep working if they are LTE even if they are not on AT&T whitelist up until a IMEI sweep finds them

In my case, such LTE devices had their speeds throttled to sub 100kbps and I had to call in to get the line "whitelisted" at ...

billionhertz,

if you can afford to wait, I recommend waiting until 5G modems can be purchased for sub $100 - by then most of this information will be obsolete.

Why don't you use the old $5 a month data flash for vzw service? it had voice and text on it

because I don't know something like it exists - I would like to know more - should I email/PM you?

LTE is a must - most of the tooling I've setup in and for the community is data optimized and the plan ...

Bumping in case anyone has insight/tips

brcisna wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:06 pm ngrok is the go to for this .
If someone has an even more transparent setup for web server access, please post your setup.

please look into Cloudflare Tunnel

Also, for devs here:

https://github.com/boringproxy/boringproxy

OK I plan to use it in actual iPADs that has a LTE modem and can call/text

This has been rock solid for me. No complaints. Speed's not the best for the price but it's reliable.

BoatGuy wrote: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:54 pm Does anyone know the exact name or number for the unlimited AT&T tablet program?

I will be finding out next week and share here.

For others - Didn't want to hijack this thread so created my own - but would appreciate any feedback: viewtopic.php?t=3434

Didn't want to hijack this thread so created my own - but would appreciate any feedback: viewtopic.php?t=3434

So - has AT&T shut down its 3G network on February 2022?

I had a few LTE/4G ready phones not on their list in the PDF lying around - plugged them in and they would all have LTE signal/I would be able to browse/videos etc and then the connection would drop to 10kbps until I plugged the SIM back into ...

The outgoing connection is CGNAT with some tricks. If you are not internet savvy, the ATT plans aren't the best to try and self host. Yes, you can self host using these ATT plans but they take different traffic routes - which is where the tricks come into play so there's a lot of work that needs to ...

Members in our community are starting to host displaced Ukranians who have been fortunate to get out - they however need to resume work and continue to be in touch with their family

The first few months they won't be able to transfer their funds out yet so we will all chip in - to make it cost ...

Hmm, this can be a very interesting project.

If you are happy and prepared to:

1. run Proxmox in a
2. low power x64 box like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/183816090574

then, let me know.

This low power x64 box will run off 19v DC.

Proxmox will run the x64 GO Image. Actually, we might try ...

What's your definition of best?

- Cheapest/best value?
- Priority/best connection?

For the best priority, nothing will beat the business class accounts, directly from AT&T, TMobile and Verizon.

Visible is not the best by either metric - it's neither the best value to connect to Verizon and ...

dbshelton wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:59 pm Does AT&T have to have the current IMEI for it to work?

Depends on the AT&T plan. Here is one I created to track the behavior of a plan I'm trying out that DOES have sticky/locked IMEI:

https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2937

We shouldn't forget the impending ATT IMEI whitelist in 2022

the $20 postpaid plan?

Without looking at the exact commands that were used, it continues to be hard to even guess what's going on.

The simplest solution is to put a GO router with the modem in front of this box and see if you can reproduce the issue.

It's $50 https://www.net10wireless.com/serviceplan. Sorry, I might have been a bit ambiguous there. I've been testing the new router / modem / WireGuard setup with Net10. I only need it when I'm in the RV so I don't want to pay $50 every month but, as an alternative $25, Visible is low enough I ...

tetranz wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 3:53 pm Not quite what you're asking but AT&T prepaid Net10 $50 unlimited seems to work nicely in a WG3526 / EM7565. I've heard that "unlimited" means 200 GB.

Nice - I left you a question at https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=8& ... 050#p22050

I'm currently testing Net10 on AT&T. It's for my RV and I don't need it all the time but $25 per month is maybe low enough to keep permanently so it's ready to go at a moment's notice. I guess I'll see how it works out. Net10 is going great. It's $50 and I've heard that it unofficially maxes out ...

The primary question that I have is what setup that Debian Bullseye box setup as a router is using.

Are the scripts/etc for that setup on a github somewhere - otherwise it's very difficult to know what we are even working with - leave alone, help debug

Things change, but in general it wasn't necessary to overcome hotspot data limits, as ATT seemed to use APNs for data use channeling. Not really sure to be honest, outside of that.

Hey, Thank You for responding!

So, AFAYR, modifying the Hop Limit field in IPv6 header wasn't necessary but also ...

SSH tunnel over a public VPS - or use something like ngrok.

The OP has calculated the data demands of a typical family well. I agree with that analysis.

My disagreement is that it's just not what is supported by the breakage models cellular providers use.

Cellular providers don't design capacity to support that kind of data demand - TBH - not even cable ...

Using systemd you can setup dependencies so that the NTP daemon is started before WireGuard, or you can be even more careful and insert your own shell script based daemon as a dependency before WireGuard that checks timestamp for monotonicity.

That is a very respectable speed for a family to use.

Have you dived into ATT's CGNAT?

Hey you need to blank out your IMEI and UPC/QR codes as the picture is public.

Yeah - this is the cheaper dell branded version.

Host multiple modems via USB3 adapters and a powered USB hub and rock the Eff out of your elite SIMs with whatever level of modem you want. I recommend category 12 or better modems that support all the ATT bands and beyond.

On hosting multiple modems via USB3 adapters, I was wondering if it ...

I see - might want to message the admins/The Wireless Haven to look into your issue. I am not an The Wireless Haven employee and unfamiliar with the NEXQ6GO-U sold by The Wireless Haven

For now don't connect anything to the router except the modem and restart the system.

Does the modem have a microUSB connector?

An actual set of pictures would help us understand the details.

The modem connects within 2 minutes of your bootup:

[ 88.560547] usb 1-1.3: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB3

… it then diconnects within 6 minutes:

[ 345.806966] usb 1-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 8
[ 345.812814] option1 ttyUSB0: GSM modem (1-port) converter now ...

1. There is no unlimited LTE data
2. The best LTE data plan is very location dependent, down to your closest towers.

Where I live is extremely rural with probably 10 people in a 5 mile radius. If it was not for the old Rural Electrification act there would be no power out here. Similar reason for POTS. It is unlikely that there ever would be a economic reason to run out fiber. If I was to lose my cellular ...

Yes.

You would then go look at the system and kernel logs to see what the issue is unless it's a faulty regulator or connection.

I sometimes wonder if the U.S. is indeed the developed nation it's hyped up to be.

Most countries that were "3rd world" have better connectivity in their rural villages than we do.

Granted - they got a headstart by leadfrogging over a lot of legacy infra. that the U.S. struggles with but when I ...

I was paying almost $100/mo for 5down/0.5up until I stumbled across LTE options.

Oh - it's the same for us where we live - only difference is they offer only upto 1.5down/0.5up for $70/mo.

In 2021.

So when I say my community has no wired options, that's technically wrong. We do have an option ...

mtl26637 wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 1:16 pm the voltage regulator is extremely underpowered

True. I hope the OP got the ones with a "USB C" port. Those have a 1A capable voltage regulator.

In any case, it's an easy mod.

I think StarLink has them scared

Probably - my concern is that StarLink is way harder to scale than fiber. The telcos know this but most customers haven't realized this yet - so they are shifting to StarLink, for now, while StarLink is very lightly loaded.

This is causing ripple effects on the ...

Domestically in the continental U.S. - do y'all think the future holds more wireless or way more fiber for data?

Both Starlink and TMo Home are making waves these months but my concern is that current tech. is not meant to support modern loads (TB+ volume) - but who knows what the future holds ...

you probably don't need such a overkill computer. you probably could get away with an old pc you have laying around.

The setup cost for that would be low, sure but for a system that runs 24x7, the running costs catch up fast.

I use low power PCs that they use at call centers - the bean ...

I just stick the mc7411 I have into it, even though it has the goldenorb firmware?

What do you mean when you say the mc7411 has goldenorb firmware in it?

You could do anything you want with that WWAN slot:

1. Run a VM w/ goldenorb firmware in it that passes through that WWAN slot and provides ...

I really hope T-Mobile keeps up with the demand.

dbshelton wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:34 am got a box thingie that holds the Modem and Sim and converts to USB from Amazon

If you mean this: https://i.imgur.com/ExyelEu.jpg

then congratulations - you are on the way to building a very capable set :idea:

Yes, that's exactly what most of us do here.

Didneywhorl wrote: Sat Aug 22, 2020 10:12 pm #Start IPV6 TTL (hl) rules … usually onlyneeded for T-Mobile and sometimes Verizon, not recommended for ATT

Didneywhorl, do you remember why modifying the Hop Limit field in IPv6 header wasn't recommended for ATT?

On a side note, we just put the deposit down for starlink as well as this looks like the only long term solution that will work for a reasonable price, pending my research of what you just posted above.

Very nice. I think you easily have a year's runway with starlink before they start clamping ...

Agreed Matt.

Hence my recommendation for the OP to invest in multipath bonding to keep this working

Multipath TCP proxies have been made real easy by OpenMPTCProuter and we have a dedicated thread right here!

Cellular providers are going to fight against the level of congestion this is causing ...

I won't call an archer c8 "low end". I almost exclusively use archer c7's w/ GO as the modem interconnect. I get them for $5 to $25 depending on accessories, condition and how badly they want to throw it away

can and will either suspend or terminate your account, this is why everyone's ipad plans all went down, mine are still up because I protected them by
making sure the imei, fid and ttl are correct on every device on my ipad plans while I watched all my friends ipad plans go down one after the ...

Well, a bit of looking around seems to imply text/minutes are also included.

I am trying to consolidate the number of plans I have - otherwise would have got this. Hope this plan lasts for a while.

I had the same issue, I had to call and listen to AT&T tell me my phone won't work past Febuary, and then they said they'd enable the phone FOR NOW. Internet didn't work until I called back and they changed some other setting. They still want me to call 877-475-2662 for a phone upgrade.

800.901 ...

Hello,

This decision by AT&T is just to reduce their support call volume. The redress depends on what legal constructs you have available in your state.

My neighbors and I are in California, and have filed disputes citing SB 822: AT&T (or any other carrier) is not allowed to exclude a device that ...

My honest answer is that you really need to invest in multipath bonding to keep this working.

Current wireless networks are just not built to handle the level of congestion you're causing. 5G won't be your solution either as you're constantly on the move.

Your usecase is an extremely atypical and ...

jearango, I am really impressed with the well defined 4 points.

Infact if you added the following as a 5th point, Elon and Bezos would halt their satellite initiatives and just write the company/team addressing all these 5 points a few billion dollars check instead:

5. That the solution provided ...

All ATT phone plans are imei locked.

Post paid tablet and hotspot plans seem to be the only thing not yet IMEI locked.

ah, Thank You.

1. In that case, would you believe, the AT&T - Unlimited Starter/Elite plans would be imei locked too?

2. If so, is it a matter of a simple phone call to the ...

gscheb wrote: Sun Aug 22, 2021 7:09 pm No experience with wire guard here.

In that case, check out tailscale. Makes WireGuard REALLY transparent.

vnmb13 wrote: Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:13 pm Is there any way I can use the modem in the router, while at the same time using the imei from my samsung?

No

From what I have seen the ATT post paid voice plans, even with hotspot and unlimited data, have only been successfully used in a hotspot device when the imei of the hotspot has been tampered with.

I might be misinterpreting what you said, but to clarify, are you noticing that ATT postpaid data ...

SomeAnonGuy wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:54 pm Do modems show up as tethering to the network?

Yes.

Depending on the plan, you might not even get any service on the modem.

SomeAnonGuy wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:54 pm So I suppose I'm asking if I should look for another rootable android phone and use it as a modem (to avoid any sort of suspicion or detection)?

Yes.

I just wonder how long until all other providers start following along.

Depends on the pricepoints really.

On one extreme end of the $100+/mo pricepoint you have people who are afraid of technology and just want a home internet replacement that just works. These plans have to have a hotspot or ...

I would be down if it was on VZW. Been wanting to join circled in for a while now, it would be nice if it's from fellow LTE Hackers

This is good input and I agree - having LTE Hackers groups would be the reason why I would create one.

The only risk would be that our usage patterns would be ...

Ok here's a short writeup I could find but I had a more detailed one. It had nothing to do with usage. There were people who were 80 years old who only use a computer to update their benefits once a month who got booted:

https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32 ... 9687#p9868

My personal opinion is not to f*ck around with Visible. They want people who use WiFi most of the time.

Using it for actual dependable internet is something they are actively working against as in they actually have Nomad clusters running realtime detection and shaping algorithms.

They are serious ...

Has T-Mobile specifically done this before?

Absolutely.

I documented it in details about what they did to our small rural community in 2019 here.

If you can't find my post, I can search for you. let me know, but here's the gist:

Offered us free hotspots for 30 days, gave us the $50 price ...

All ATT phone plans are imei locked.

Post paid tablet and hotspot plans seem to be the only thing not yet imei locked.

My $35 ATT Prepaid iPad SIM can be placed in any device and continue to work. It's been that way for over 3 years now. Are you saying that's an exception?

Yes, so far post ...

essentials only has 3G for hotspot, that may be part of the issue.

It definitely is. This plan is not meant to be used in a hotspot

It's on the T-Mobile Essentials plan.

Sorry, this plan is not meant to be used in a hotspot.

If you chose this plan because it's cheap, look at my latest ...

The VZ branded Moto E4 that I purchased brand new from WM for $40 and then unlocked for $3 can make and receive calls and text on TMo, ATT withut any hassle.

Since it was VZ branded I had to call their CS to let me use a Visible SIM in it but after calling around was able to do so.

4G/LTE works ...

https://joincircledin.com/

Simple, 2 step process:

1. You pay them directly - I won't know anything about you. They handle CS/Payments/SIM card etc and guarantee no interruption in service even if I mess up (I wont)
2. You get access to the best multiline deals - in exchange for a $5/mo fee plus ...

GLOCKSHOOTER wrote: Mon Aug 23, 2021 9:43 pm I plan to use a wg3526

Are things going per plan?

Does the $20 Postpaid ATT iPAD plan have text/minutes?

Or it's strictly LTE only with NO text/minutes?

LTE_boi wrote: Fri Aug 20, 2021 11:52 pm What are my options, aside from Visible, for a less stressful path onto Verizon's network?

https://joincircledin.com/

I like Quectel modems. Since they can be set up for auto reboot. Some modems like sierra wireless have to have power cycle (turned on and off). Which can't be done automatically.

Can you explain this to me a bit more please?

Like what's the usecase and why using the router power toggle from ...

Appreciate it.

Do you plan to use it in a modem or tether a phone over USB?

Visible need to set as follows

#start TTL rules
iptables -t mangle -I POSTROUTING -j TTL --ttl-set 64
iptables -t mangle -I PREROUTING -j TTL --ttl-set 64
ip6tables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o wwan0 -j HL --hl-set 65
ip6tables -t mangle -I PREROUTING -i wwan0 -j HL --hl-set 65
#end TTL rules ...

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