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I do not think I am seeing the exact same thing.

It makes me wonder if these devices are creating some sort of tunnel or using unknown custom DNS settings.

Hard way would be isolate the client and parse it's traffic.

Dumb way, force DNS on your router, blacklist what moto or amazon may be using ...

Using my VM is where I noticed the loopback traffic, If my WAN recieve side was 390-400mbps, I was seeing 100% nic utilization. The connection causing WAN saturation was external to the hypervisor.

Also it seems this router can cause tons of switch level saturation as I have noticed WAN speed fall ...

also double triple quadruple check that it is usb0.

I had one start out as usb0 then change to usb_modem_1_1_2 or something a long those lines.

PS - USCellular if available in your area finally backed off the 50-150gb $50-$150 plans.

I was able to aquire a $70 unlimited plan with a EP06-A IMEI ...

Well tried some things with this today.
Used to be that could just go into rooter and use custom TTL and set it to 65 and that was fine. That don't work anymore. Have to use Firewall - Custom Rules
Have to use a TTL of 66 or higher it seams. The 65 will longer work even in the custom rules.
This ...

Been tinkering with this a bit.

200mbps and under, anything that is in the supported devices list will work more or less. PI4 can get upto 250mbps.

For up to 400mbps throughput from WANs you want a dedicated 1gb NIC and gb switch backplane and modern dual core PC dedicated to OMR. At worst.

For ...

I need to get back to antenna testing or start a new thread... Promise some results on the 600-6000mhz single horn grids by August 30th hopefully. Work has been beyond crazy.

Edit: had some throughput values flipped.

TLDR: In a nutshell OMR will multi xmit on both sides to achieve stability, this causes tons of overhead in the NIC, and switch that may go unnoticed. Also if you want TCP/UDP seamless, also VPN bonding, expect CPU to usage to follow suit.

Tried the ...

Added a 5mm thick. 25x40mm copper heatsink with 3m thermal transfer tape. Under full load on a very hot day it is now 74c.

I'll be able to dig up more on T-mobile testing next weekend and report it here.

Spent all weekend messing with AT&T.

I did find a combo of a 1710-2700MHZ horn on the outside pins. Then either 2 x yagi 700-2700mhz or a single 700-4000 horn on the inside pins is reaching 220mbps down 25mbps up ...

Today it got up to 95F with direct sun on the modem side of the enclosure, under full load it hit 80C around 6PM. 86C is my shutdown limit. Hardware white paper does warn about temps above 75C for extended use. My own risk. :D

From experience with these types of devices, they can hover in the mid ...

Awesome job, thanks for sharing!! :D

What is your max outdoor Temp and modem Temp??

See link to another WG3526-P outdoor build.
They also have a list of parts used.

https://youtu.be/-SbNkn1161s

https://youtu.be/WMhEMOqNNwQ

I like your build a ton. I have that exact enclosure I'm waiting to ...

Max outdoor up to 105f rarely. 100f maybe 10-20 days on a bad year. Usually 95f max for 15 days+

Northeast Oklahoma, USA.

So far I've saw the modem hit 62c under hours of load. It was cooler here today. Maybe 85f and overcast.

I do plan on adding a heatsink. Maybe some sort of vent/pump. Not much ...

OMR works great when you want to combine these LTE connections. It's only weakness is you have to bypass OMR for a select few sites such as netflix/prime since your external IP is typically blocked due to being from big server. I'd not skimp on hardware either, I started with pi4 then the wrt32x ...

Has anyone tested out the FM150-NA?

It is the cheapest module I've pegged with n71 support. Though I do not see much talk about it?

This is a WG3526-P build I just finished.

RM500Q-AE Modem
Mini PCIE to M.2 B Key adapter,
16MM N female to MHF4 bulkheads,
20mm - short body 8P8C connector - ethernet gland. (tight fit for the board, full sized 8P8C wouldn't fit)
TEA-005C model number diecast case. (it had all the proper threaded ...

Holy fast shipping from China. All the horns and grids came in today and I happen to be on vacation until the 8th!

They actually sent two extra grids. Not sure if on purpose or an accident.

After a bit more reading the wg3526 mpcie is 480mbps or 2.5gbps. leaning towards 480mbps because USB 2.0 is the modem bus no?

Testing with the RM500Q-AE for the Tmob 5G stuff here. I FINALLY got things working well enough I think I can move on to next project. I'm currently testing with 2 of the TVWS yagi's you had previously mentioned and also 2 additional 12dbi 698-2700 yagi's that are very similar to the 2 TVWS ...

Testing with the RM500Q-AE for the Tmob 5G stuff here. I FINALLY got things working well enough I think I can move on to next project. I'm currently testing with 2 of the TVWS yagi's you had previously mentioned and also 2 additional 12dbi 698-2700 yagi's that are very similar to the 2 TVWS ...

Hello, if band 14 wasn't your primary band would be even better more than likely. If you are just trying to get better and better.
Double check and make sure that the parabolic antenna is going to the main antenna port on the modem.
Me anything over hundred is great for LTE download speeds.

So ...

Here is AT&T stats right now using 1 x 1700-2700 feed and 2 x wilson yagi.

They are about 15' on a temp setup.

The kicker is they are pointed at a B2 and B66 tower about 7 miles away, However a B14 and B66 tower is literally inline behind them 10 miles and serves as the primary on 14 for the ...

I raise cattle out here and haven't planned on moving. Going on 25 years out here, since I was 12. So finding this gold mine of radio waves has been a ton of fun. (hybrid system analyst by night, do a little devops, little normal ops, ton of automation)

I honestly can't believe I've been so ...

Also the decent results for T-Mobile have been on a RM502Q-AE

AT&T best results have been with EM160R-GL.

I will get to test a RM500Q-AE this week in a WG3526-P, without the 50' coax runs. Been waiting forever for CATV enclosures, cable glands and other stuff from China. (I hope the WG3526 MPCIE ...

Did you hit the lottery, LOL? I will be interested in all of your testing. I'm still working on my RM500Q-AE setup, no matter what I have tried (and that is ALOT) I can't seem to get anything above 100mbps. Have 3 new antennas to try on Monday so fingers crossed. Exploration at the tower shows I'm ...

Here it is, running about 225 down / 55 up right now.

Yagi antennas still not xpol. Horn arrow still pointing straight north. Being lazy :D

P.S. I am surrounded by fiber providers. It seems like every cooperative jumped on some sort of grant / loan program. So not sure if my towers just have a ...

Been a busy month, still running the T-Mobile 5g gateway sim in a WG1608 with a quectel RM502Q-AE. Two TVWS 11dB yagi, One 2x MIMO 1710-2700 parabolic grid with feed horn. 4x 50' LMR400 runs.

Also a Visible sim in a GL.Inet X750, all I have for verizon is b13, so thats about as good as it gets on ...

Going to give four of these a try. 600-6500mhz single input output feed horn. (this was super hard to find, direct from supplier)

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Also going to give two of these a test. 700-4000mhz, 2xmimo feed horn.

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I will keep everyone posted on the results.

Stand on the roof at night time and look for flashing lights

Only antenna's i've spaced too close together and had performance issues with were 470-690mhz whitespace antenna's, aiming for b71/n71. That is the lowest frequency we would ever go for as of now.

Most offered LTE/Cellular antennas have horrible performance below 700mhz, due to pole spacing ...

*cough* We need a 600-900mhz 21dB+ 2x mimo feed horn *cough*

I need to take the router apart to confirm, I suspect it is L2 and L3 for low band, and L1 and L4 for middle band, in my setup, maybe I have something crossed as I know this contradicts a few folks as of now.

I will confirm my pin configuration once my waterproof enclosure shows up.

On the WG1608 ...

Typically angled at 45 haa been prominent. Your trying to match the polarization of the tower, and I think X pol is the most common. + Pol will work of coarse, but again X seems most common.

Good info. More ladders and wrenching.

I need to perfect this setup though. As I suspect my neighbors ...

Hello,
How is the feeder horn
orientation Polarization vectors pointing? Where is the vertical arrow pointing? From your picture if it is pointed vertical that could cause different gains possibly. Since the horizontal vector would get more reflection than the vertical. In the past have pointed ...

I have seen a few people on our facebook group that refute that and say they have been using as much as they want without getting shut down, on US Mobiles Verizon plan. I've also heard the opposite on reddit, so its hard to say. Good thing is its prepaid and no risk of credit damage from closed ...

Having an issue with my feeder horn. One side is 12dB lower... The two yagis and one side of the parabolic are reading 89-91dB... the other side of parabolic is reading 103dB... Better pointing and a replacement feeder horn will yield 20mbps extra guessing...

Going to setup two of these T-Mobiles ...

WG1608 and RM502Q-AE or the Trashcan. They both perform the same with this antenna array on the proper lb and mb ports- mapped it today. 6.33 miles actually. -127ft of elevation. The antennas are mounted 50-55'

The benefit I see of using the WG1608 over the Trashcan. Port forwarding does work in ...

They're not pointed perfect but.. I need a break.. Too much ladder and wrenches this past month. Haha

This also cleared up NAT/uPnP issues / connection problems to gaming services and the work VPN.

I assume the b2 network as the primary is causing this.

Antenna view

Update.. added in a Parabolic Grid again. On outside pins.

So now 2 x whitespace yagi. 1x mimo parablic grid 1700-2700mhz horn.

Screenshot_20210701-183001_Speedtest.jpg

1) not sure, though elevation generally helps to a certain point.

2) EM160R-GL you can select bands at will. Modem will restart every time modification is saved.

3) Those bands will be available for service, the modem and tower will negotiate what band to use always.

4) Not sure, many factors ...

I did for Visible (Verizon), US Mobile (T-Mobile), T-Mobile Prepaid, AT&T Prepaid (Not sure if they care or not), and my FirstNet sim from work.

TTL 64/65 or straight 65 splits.

US Mobile was the only provider to hard lock me to 1 Mbps, however it clearly states that for the GSM service on their ...

Well... I bet I end up owning more antennas..

Also had very good luck with att and TMobile prepaid sims. Both I've downloaded upto 2tb in a month from. No gripes or throttle. But nearly $60/mo

Trash can sim is nice because no throttle anywhere. And only $50/mo flat of you call in. They don't care where you live. Just find an address in service ...

I did try US Mobile for T-Mobile and was rather quickly throttled to 1mbps.

I haven't tried them for Verizon. I do notice visible for Verizon has some added latency going through their mvno VPN. I currently have a few $25 party plans through visible. Maybe US mobile isn't as laggy.

Does look like only 1.5-1.9db lost in the 600-700 range over 50' lmr400

3-4dB lost in the 1800-2000 range.

2' lmr400 pigtail. Negligible.

I'm pursuit of Insanity though. I'll lower hopefully a dB and have much easier to finish cable run.

Also I have a edgerouter 6p as my core. So that is semi ...

By August I'll have some updates for 4x4 testing. NSA. CA.

Also ip67/Poe setup versus 50' lmr400 runs.

I'll make sure to swing back by.

Waiting in China 😭

Then a massive ebay sell off. Of my extra stuff.

I do plan on adding in a setup for AT&T as a backup, those towers form a perfect 6 mile ...

That is just SA n71 2x2mimo 256qam. In the test above.

Yes b2+b71+n71 NSA/ca would be nearly 430mbps down alone. Assuming 2x2 mimo. 10mhz b2 and b71.

If you add in 4x4 mimo for b2 and 20mhz width. Nearly 1gbps. Fussy math.

I hate to suggest as I know the folks here run a store.

However a quick google of Rfwel Whitespace will land you in the direction of what I am using.

Also be aware, 4x4 mimo is not currently possible on n71 with available modems.

I may be wrong about SIM8200, though I think 2x2 is controlled at the tower anyways.

The Snapdragon x55 definitley has whitepapers stating such.

I suspect after I factor in b2 and b71 CA testing (only b2, b71, n71 ...

Maximum theoretical speed for N71 with 20x20MHz, 2x2 MIMO, and 256QAM is 226.85Mbps.

This a fairly average test for me.

Cherry picked

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As I posted

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I probably will test this soon also;

https://www.antelantenna.com/product/ata-ya570hv-9/

The below is what i am currently using, with the top antenna positioned normal vertical polarity, arrow pointing up, the bottom antenna 4.5' below with the polarity arrow pointing at 9 O'clock horizontal. I am ...

Also for what I have observed pointing for n71... You have about a 3 inch window east to west, with the antenna level.

Anything outside of this will yield b71.

The sweetspot where I started getting near the theoretical 2x2 n71 max for my stats. Was about a .5-1 inch window.

I haven't tested skew ...

I am curious about this antenna. It is much cheaper than alternative whitespace antennas I've found. Also it is dual N type. For around $100 a pop.

https://www.antelantenna.com/product/ata-ya570hv-9/

Last project will be slap it all in a ip67.

The above antenna directly to the ip67 enclosure ...

Check out my post in this sub-forum. I've been using TV whitespace yagi's that are 480-698

I need to figure out if 4 white space antennas and b71+n71 aggregation is possible

Or two whitespace antennas and a parabolic grid or ldpa mimo setup for b2+n71 is possible.

Time to test with the WG1608, maybe install a few more pigtails to the trashcan.

Noticed the whitespace antennas will ...

Finally got a chance to test with the trashcan and the rm502q-ae.

I am using whitespace yagi. that are 480-698mhz or so. Also I've tested with a parabolic grid and 1700-2600?mhz feed horn.

I have observed B2+n71 CA. on the trashcan. Not the RM502Q-AE

The trash can I installed sma pigtails to pin ...

Just got a parabolic grid up very similar to the one in some of gschebs post. 2x mimo. 26db gain. 1700-2700mhz horn

Very similar to the one in those posts. 😂

Just wow..

Using a wg3526. Ec160r-gl. 2x 50ft low loss 240 runs.

Hitting 45mbps down. 15 Mbps up. 50ms ping. 2 Ms jitter. 0.0% packet ...

Try every band one at a time when all else fails. I tried to follow the general known bands in my area, and everything is backwards. ATT on Tmobile bands, Tmobile on ATT bands, Verizon using ATT first responders band. WTH

I am curious the total amount of data folks have been able to use in a month on US Cellular? Also did you see any throttling, overage costs, etc?

I've saw they have some unlimited plans again, with streaming throttled. However, if I can push maybe 200GB a month on one of these and get by, It may be ...

Got in some unexpected testing today.

LTE only, with EC25-AF and Spitz.

Was very encouraging, 2,4,5,12,13,14,66,71 are strong enough to hit generic $35 yagi's @ about 55'+/- with like 75' of N to SMA cheapo coax running down the pole through the window.

Also got some phone testing in, Looks like ...

Oh also I am on band 71 right now. It is working pretty good albeit its lte band 71 lol.

Have a tmobile home gateway coming.

After poking around with my phone a bit more, I am thinking n41 and n71 are pushing the 5g just up the hill. I suspect with some thinking I can make this thing work with ...

So today I got some hodge podge yagi's up. 700-2700mhz generic ones for $35.

They are @ 55'ish, using N-SMA coax down the pole, through the window to EC25-AF and a x750.

Been very interesting, I am able to hit 2,4,5,12,13,14,66,71 so far.

4, 14 and 66 look to be ATT (14 is the responders band I ...

Just have to think outside the P.O. box. If you catch my drift.

Also I do not have the gateway in hand yet. Will be probably a few weeks delay before I can get antennas up and start modding.

I do happen to have a couple whitespace/400-698 antennas... Let's see what I can figure out.

With no evidence I wonder if a combo of n2 and n71 are the ticket? I keep reading about this expansion of band n71 online.

I will say my Samsung s20 from expected distance and elevation is hitting over ...

Theoretical question.

T-Mobile 5g gateway. 7.5 miles from tower. 100ft elevation loss.

If one were to install external outdoor antenna(s). What selection would you use and why? Also would you install the router outside near the antennas in a waterproof enclosure and power it via POE to DC ...

I think we just done business gscheb

I agree. I need to start with a basic setup and sim. See where that takes me before going all out.

I do have ec25-af, ep06-a and 7455. Two spitz to test on. Yagis with be here Tuesday and I can start basic band 2 and 4 testing.

Should grab a USB to pcie... have several old routers with USB laying ...

Also I am reading all over the forum, Sometimes it's just better being told. I do realize many post have popped these exact questions.

Also I think I owe thewirelesshaven.com this order... Unless for some reason we run into something I have to source elsewhere.

So looking at tmobile (see it on B4 and B71 using a crapo app) now, got verizon up and going. I see ATT also. (B2)

So for Tmobile or ATT, it is going to take some elevation but possible. I have a 60ft antenna break over mast. So I can achieve this. My concerns are antenna selection, also where in ...

Thank you all for the suggestions. I do appreciate the input from everyone here. Awesome community. Sorry for the delayed reponse. Work was CRAZY this week.

Hello All,

I have read around a bit on here but am still a bit mixed up on what would be some recommended gear to grab at thewirelesshaven.com

I have a U.S. Cellular tower near that I suspect Verizon shares. (as my brother has Verizon and gets identical services to my Google FI using U.S. Cellular ...

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