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MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:52 am
by feudalkaos
I am looking to upgrade from my existing MC7455. I have looked at the MC7411, MC7511, and the EM7565 modems. Obviously the higher CAT modems should perform better in theory but not necessarily in practice.

Can anyone with experience with these modems on T-Mobile please share their thoughts?

My setup is on a boat so frequently mobile. I currently have 2 external Omni antennas but they do not get down into the 600mhz range so no band 71 with those just yet.

Alternatively, is there really a huge benefit to going with 5G? I have a 5G phone and the speeds I see are usually the same as what I get from the same phone on 4G.

Re: MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 10:19 pm
by discord
IIRC 7411 supports band 17. I'm working on a setup for a boat. What omnis are you using? You don't happen to be the wirless bits guy are you?

Re: MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:12 am
by feudalkaos
I am not the wireless bits guy.

The 7411 does support band 71 however my antennas are not turned low enough into the 600mhz frequency to utilize it. Most high gain omnis are turned down to about 698mhz and band 71 is down to 600mhz.

I am using a Poynting Omni-400 and a Wilson 4G marine Omni 304420. I ended up going with the 7411 because it covers all of the T-Mobile bands that I need and this setup is working pretty well. I have had a connection up to about 7 miles of the US east coast. Within about 5 miles I have a pretty decent and stable connection. The only thing I would like to improve is Omnis that can pickup band 71 but so far there aren't many worth buying.

Re: MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:32 am
by JimHelms
You may want to give one of these 2x2 MIMO Omni Antennas a try. They do cover the 600MHz to 3800MHz frequency range.

600-3800Mhz 2x2 MIMO 5G Ready 6dBi Omni-Directional Antenna.png

Re: MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:54 am
by JimHelms
I do personally have that antenna which is mounted on top of my camper.

I also like (and personally use) the EM7411 in a NEXR5GO router with T-Mobile and, while not a speed demon, does provide enough bandwidth to serve its purpose.

EM7411 Signal Stats.png

Speed Test Camper.png

Re: MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:42 pm
by feudalkaos
That's a nice looking antenna however I prefer mimo from two antennas instead of two in one like this. Also, I use 8" pigtails from the modem to LMR400 then to the antennas. Each of these cable lengths from modem to antenna is no more than 6 feet. This antenna looks like it have fairly long LMR200 cables fixed to it. This wouldn't be ideal in my setup. I like to keep cables as short and large as possible since that is where the biggest loss comes from.

Re: MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:52 am
by JimHelms
feudalkaos wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 9:42 pm I prefer mimo from two antennas instead of two in one like this.
Yes, I completely understand the preference for two separate SISO antennas to achieve MIMO. We normally stock this Wide Band Omni Antenna but they are currently on back order. They have N Female connectors on bottom of the antenna which eliminates the need for any jumper/patch cables.

We are currently having these Omni Antennas redesigned to operate in the 600MHz to 3800MHz.
I like to keep cables as short and large as possible since that is where the biggest loss comes from.
We do have that same Wide Band Omni MIMO antenna with short cables that terminate with N Female connectors but without the marine swivel base.

Re: MC7411 VS MC7511 VS EM7565 on T-Mobile

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 12:31 am
by discord
Are you mounting to a sailboat mast or is it on the roof of a motorboat? What are you using for a router to plug the mpci-e card into? Iā€™m ā€œ designing ā€œ a system for a dreamboat
feudalkaos wrote: Wed Feb 02, 2022 7:12 am I am not the wireless bits guy.

The 7411 does support band 71 however my antennas are not turned low enough into the 600mhz frequency to utilize it. Most high gain omnis are turned down to about 698mhz and band 71 is down to 600mhz.

I am using a Poynting Omni-400 and a Wilson 4G marine Omni 304420. I ended up going with the 7411 because it covers all of the T-Mobile bands that I need and this setup is working pretty well. I have had a connection up to about 7 miles of the US east coast. Within about 5 miles I have a pretty decent and stable connection. The only thing I would like to improve is Omnis that can pickup band 71 but so far there aren't many worth buying.