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All around great and affordable router is right here:)

https://thewirelesshaven.com/shop/routers/lte-routers/we826-go-4g-lte-wifi-router/

You get a product that is supported by not only the thewirelesshaven.com folks, there are many here who also use the WE826.

Have a couple of them and they run ...

we826 and a mc7455 is a mofi sim 4
we826 and a ec25-af is a mofi sim 7

are you referring to calyxinstitute.org?

Yes there are other members on here that use it and says it works great if you are in a sprint area. The rumors currently are that these sprint plans will carry over to T-mobile at some point. If I had sprint in my area I would do it. It is cheap ...

thanks all for your replies. i signed up for calyx today. the only hardware they had in stock was the LinkZone 2 so i may be trying a different device soon.

for those researching it looks like calyx gets this service from mobilecitizen.org

From what I heard people have removed sim card from ...

I am also on Verizon and had the same issue.... It always seeing my data as hotspot data. Unfortunately while I did find a work around you likely won't like my solution. I ditched the mofi (also had a sim4) and built my own unit consisting of a wg3526 and an ep06-a modem. Total cost was 160 USD. The ...

Thanks for sharing. Good to know it didn’t break anything. Interesting that the signal reading was better but no practical effect to speed. Maybe I’ll give it a shot. But I guess if it was a magic bullet, others would be doing it and writing about it here, so...

Boosters will usually increase ...

https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=233

Boosters are great for cell phones. If you want good 4G modem speeds need mimo antenna right to the modem. No boosters they just not good for that.

That setup doesnt seem bad, if they are installing it. The router price seems decent but your paying for a modem you wont be using in it. The Telit LM960A18 is generally about $280 by itself, shipped.
Mikrotik makes good equipment, but the firmware takes a PHD to understand. Once you figure it out ...

This response may be too late as the post is over a month old.
If so, how did it work out for you?

T-Mobile 71/n71 600MHz band may help the rural setup.
(not sure if 600 is exclusively NR 5G or if 4G is flowing on it as well)

To future proof the antenna purchase, I am reading that people should ...

I did say a little sketchy :?

Yes you did.
Wen I first started this would only use resellers. Thought it was the "right" thing to do. Was ran thru the ringer with them. Their membership fees and what not. Pay a member ship fee get a T-Mobile plan and then it got slowed down allot. More than ...

OP - do you know any of your neighbors who have wired internet? It would be a lot cheaper for you to set up a local wireless configuration from someone else's house and beam it to yours if it's on the same street. Plus you'd have real unlimited with no risk of losing it. Hardware probably only runs ...

NoLimitData is the MVNO that I am using today, was using OTR but they dropped T-Mobile.
The only cell tower I have is T-Mobile. Band-71 works the best as for the 600MHz can shoot through the tress better
than the other bands.

ALL MVNO are a little sketchy!! I could play games and try to get an ...

For LTE modems, in-line boosters tend to amplify the noise as much as the signal, so you don't really gain anything. Better antennas is about all you can do.. Are those nice 10dbi whip omnis or smaller 5dbi ones?

T-Mobile phone sim will work. Have three houses on it. Well technically five. Two of the houses share with another house.
Get post pay plan set TTL 64 and good to go. Use it up big time.

Exactly how to avoid the middle man (resellers)!

I wish T-Mobile was not so congested here. 50% of the day ...

Yep you are correct. I would add they are ALL shady. Just need to pick the less shady out of the bunch.

With OTR had to pay "Membership" used them for one month then they dropped T-Mobile which is the network I need! And they switched to AT&T, they are good, but just not at my location. In the ...

Hey Guys,. Thanks so much for trying to help. I switched from page plus to simple mobile and its the best change I could have made. No clue why but I have 0 issues now.

Basically what's happening is that in the Nighthawk M1 has used up the included 5GB hotspot data, and it got throttled after that. Obviously if you stick the sim into a phone it's fast again since it's not using hotspot data. A VPN won't bypass it, the only way is by setting the TTL to 65 ...

Here are a few points for rural wireless...
The killer band is 617 MHz, The frequency Is shared by both 4G B71 and 5G n71.
Tmobile owns a large portion of this band, but I read that it is not 100%.
It is only used in North America.
This frequency range is fairly new in the manufacturing scheme of ...

Yeah, it seems that the att and tmob tablet plans are the most talked about. Perhaps it's because verizon has a reputation for sniffing traffic to a deeper degree than others. What if any magic did you do to get it working?

Hi,
I have the Verizon unlimited tablet post paid plan. 2 tablets for price of 1--50% discount, and then with military discount $8.67@ month, per tablet.
I'm NOT using it as my primary internet, as I moved to the city, (for a while) but like to try and stay informed as I can--as we are not long for ...

Thanks for your reply.

I’m actually on an iPhone X. The booster is using one Yagi antenna pointed in the only direction I found to produce any signal. It is posted at the end of my RV about 15 feet up off the ground. Oddly enough the boosted service completely cuts out when I go any higher.

I ...

Any plan will work with the LBR20 assuming you configure it to be compatible. Read between the lines in my "Sending AT Commands to the Modem" section and check for spelling typos. That's all I will say here. Feel free to DM (hazarjast at proton mail dot com) if you need clarification.

Hello,
Have follow up question about visible. Have set one of these up for someone. Was wondering if you found a way around the Video throttling at 480 p with visible?

It's a double edged sword.... Short answer is no I don't use hd anyway... Longer answer if you could work around it your data ...

I had no idea I could test different bands. How do I do that? I just assumed my phone chose the best signal and I couldn't do anything about it.

Out here the very best I've got outside around my house was -107dbm and Rssnr 2.0. At that I have a decent enough signal to stream youtube on my phone ...

Sorry know you are getting overloaded with this. Just remembered this post. Should have sent earlier. Might help.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=37 ... 8621&hilit

I am, by no means, an expert. There are many available to you on this forum.
This post covers what I have learned the hard way, in an effort to save you significant time and money. It is a combination of best practices that I have gleaned from others on this site, boiled down and simplified for ...

Well I just wrote a long explanation but it didnt save and I am to lazy to write it all again.

Basically I tested the 4 main types of antennas and for my tree filled signal path found the yagi (wedge) worked best. You have to remember the higher the db the narower the focal path. If your shooting ...

So what should I do, two Yagis or a mimo parabolic? Obviously the two Yagis are cheaper. But I can swing the parabolic if I can keep the modem/router to about 200.

A mofi will run you about 300 plus tax and shipping. Make one yourself and you can come closer to that 200 figure.

Question, you ...

I know I will get some flack for this-so take it for what it's worth.

If you do not have the time, or skill to build your router, THIS, may be an alterative to get you up and running-I DO NOT have ANY affiliation with this seller, not have I ever dealt with (them).

Do not buy one from China, as ...

I think there is WAY to much good infirmation in here for one person to process so let me try and break it down a little to make it more "digestible"

When you going to get al your internet needs from cellular you ALWAYS need a few things:
1) A cell plan
2) A router
3) Some kind of antennas to ...

See for antenna clues

https://youtu.be/xzqkoPL9t9A

https://youtu.be/kFsYem_7eZg

https://youtu.be/73jEQgihpso

That last one you need to be careful of. He is very detailed and makes specific recommendations but some of his information is REALLY flawed. If you watch the whole series he ...

Agree would focus on modem first get it going before you move. Assuming more than likely have good coverage now if have good internet now.
How it works people that have "real" internet have the best cell towers too.

It's also worth noting that at 14 miles, you're doing pretty well with what you have. Most people at that range would have a high end parabolic grid antenna.

Chances are, you're going to struggle. You're likely having noise issues at that distance, and since you're the little voice reaching very ...

Be careful on your choice of antenna. You need to know which bands you have available to you before you purchase one. That above linked Parabolic looks like it lacks low end bands, which are more likely what you're getting at that range.

There are modems that will MIMO upload, but the cheaper ones ...

Here's what I did with my we1326. Not a lot of room in there, I think they would have fit on the sides too. It has internal lte antennas that you just ignore. Get the pig tails that will fit your antenna choice.If you go em modem you'll need a pcie to m2 adaptor.
It was all very straightforward ...

I had a mofi setup as well but found building my own gave me more flexibility. Specifically I wanted ca AND band 66 for example. Mofi does not have such a configuration. Sim4 doesn't have band 66 sim7 doesn't have ca. Just something to think about when you look at things. If you need/want band 71 ...

Of course, and I'm grateful for all insights.

What I meant was I can tell you are good at troubleshooting and will figure it out:)

Way back in another life when I was a lowly cellular technician, had to track down some real gremlins and spend many nights trying to rid the cell site of them ...

I agree it sounds like a DNS name server issue.

When looking at your logs at the bottom you have 3 entries for using nameserver ... one of them looks spot on 8.8.8.8, the other starting with fc00 looks like an IPV6 name server and then finally the third starting with 172.26 that's an IP address ...

Weird ever since this was posted Ive had Att issues... they are probably going to kill the plan again as more people do it. This is my only option... you have cheap ass people with access to cable internet choosing to do this and people like you making it easy as possible...

I can't do anything ...

This is my rig on the back patio. Signals inside of my house were never better than one bar, with two to occasional three bars outside.

With the antennas and a Mofi4500 i now have 30down and 25up with signal strength -88dbi. Tower is five miles away. The 10db 2.4ghz antennas cut right through the ...

LAA band 46 seems to be used by ATT in certain areas only, at least for now. I have locked both my phone and modem to band 46 alone, but there was no signal at all. Here are the bands currently used by US carriers.

4G-LTE (* = Primary bands)
ATT = *2, 4, 5, 12, 14, 17, 29, 30, 46, 66
TMO = 2, *4, 5 ...

First. The EM20 is a product no longer made. You'll have to get a rare new one or find a used one. The EM160 is soon to release and all the latest "5G" modems are 4x4 MIMO. That or the Telit LM960A18, Sierra 7690, and some of the SIMCOM and Fibocom modems are 4x4 MIMO. I only have experience so far ...

Hello,
In my opinion band 71 typically isn't super fast.

Band 71 is really not that fast, being only 5Mhz bandwidth in my area with a max download speed of 25Mbps, though others have reported 10Mhz which can go as high as 50Mbps. In most areas it's not much by itself, but with CA along another ...

You could if you know Linux really well and know how to turn a Linux pc into a router. All you would need is the right drivers for the modems, which is almost included at this point. Or you could buy a gateway router with an M.2 or mPCIE interface and be "nearly" plug and play with openWRT ...

I would stay away from such. Can be VERY disruptive to cellular RF equipment. A low noise amplifier such as you describe amplifies everything, including noise. Think of it as watering your flower garden with a fireman hose instead of a garden hose.

Too much and soon or later, you can expected to be ...

I have a question related to setting up dual MIMO 2x2 directional/yagi antennas. But I am also researching band locking to lock my modem into the best channel/band. My question: Can 2x2 MIMO antenna setup work with band-locking or are these impossible to use together? Not sure how MIMO works? Does ...

Your iphone7 has 4x4 MIMO antennas and a category 16 modem, with at least 3xCA capability. Your SIM7 is a category 3 modem with 2x2 MIMO antennas and no CA capability and limited bands in its list.

I would get an thewirelesshaven.com NEXR5GO router and a Quectel EM12 modem (dont forget the minipcie ...

T mobile is likely the easiest for getting on the network with your own gear. Verizon is a pain, but not un-doable.

My favorite router modem setup right now is the WiFiX NEXR5GO router with a Sierra Wireless EM7565 modem. Or if you want/need bands 14 AND 71 then the Sierra EM7411 is the one. It ...

I always add a dedicated WiFi access point or mesh system that plugs in via ethernet to the router, and turn off the routers wifi radios to give full power to the modem. Its really the best way in my opinion.

I guess the purpose behind the experiment is that if I get get the M1 to work well, I'll sell the MOFI. The M1 had started to lose connection and reboot, but it may have been the AT&T transparent proxy issue, not sure.

Actually, a better deal would be to sell them both, and get a whole new rig ...

Just a question, what kind of signal strength are you getting and what power supply are you using. Also, what tower ID do you have and did you verify it didn't change. The carriers are doing upgrades all the time now it seems, taking arrays down on one tower causing the router to register with ...

Hey BillA,

Just curious if you have heard any more about this? I'm trying to figure out if I should start looking at other options.

Thanks!

I have already addressed that issue, here it is again:

You can disregard that message from PagePlus, it only affects VoLTE (Voice Over LTE calls) if you ...

You can do it, but you'd have to get a pcie to m.2 adapter, get the firmware to work, then be stuck with the 100mbps max throughput of the mofi router. I'd get a wg1608v2(that already has the m.2 interface, plus gigabit throughput), and sell the mofi whole, after you get the 1608+RM500 running ...

Might want to try loading up in the car, use a portable inverter or similar power source, or take it to another house/work, and test it on another tower. Ensure you have top signal. Also may want to drive right up to your tower with your rig and see if it changes.

Testing if its signal strength ...

I think Tmobile has all but banned the LM960A18 on every plan but their overpriced data bucket plans.

Yea, same thing happened with my testing. I had the LM960 and the LM960A18. The LM960 worked fine, but the A18 needed a pooled data only plan. Both however work fine on AT&T.

Band 71 is more ...

Welcome!

You can search the forum here for the proper command to find the protocol mode of an em/mc7455. Our tutorials section has a lot. But yes it looks like its using mbim. I would maybe try qmi and see if that works better. The MBIM and QMI are simply communication protocols between the router ...

Did having two parabolic antennas help??

Sorry, just seeing this now! Yes, having two parabolic antennas has definitely helped. I also shortened my PVC mast to about 5 ft. (due to the extra weight) and saw no signal loss, and actually more signal consistency since the mast no longer sways in ...

Additionally, our phone testing is with Visible which should be the same as the VZW modems, but throwing that our there for full transparency.

Not quite sure if your testing setup (phone setup) contains the visible sim or if the new equipment but either way SIM provisioning (provider) will ...

The reason I ask is because I'm fairly sure Verizon is hyper vigilant about seeing IMEIs of devices not registered to the SIM/account and then the drop the hell out of that imei, quick. ie: blacklisted.

There is a couple of threads about the T-Mobile home internet option and adding antennas. The old gateway is no longer being shipped and instead the new Nokia 4/5G gateway is what you get now. So antenna advice about the older Askey gateway is no longer valid. The new gateway uses more standard ...

If you are attempting AT&T why did you not buy a Data plan? Sounds like you are trying to use a phone plan.

https://www.att.com/prepaid/mobile-hotspot-tablet/

Yes, you could replace the modem card in the Mofi, I don't know if the Mofi firmware would continue to work. I flashed my Mofi with the Goldenorb version for the WE826, just to experiment a bit. It works really well. You can always reflash it with the Mofi firmware and put it back to stock if you ...

Well the first step you can take before you have the parts list to get a working sim card. Here is a post of tablets I have used to get service. Can get them on ebay for cheap especially if it has cracked screen or other cosmetic issues.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=2367

Once you ...

Could always try to "reflow" it as a last ditch.

Have you tried replacing the power supply? Sometimes USB modem dropouts are as simple as a faulty/dying power supply.

I currently have three of these at&t post pay devices setup. At different locations. Have not heard of anyone being shut down on post pay. The shut downs where on prepay tablets.

If you see a post on here saying that post pay was shut down please refer it to us.

This is the lte game. It is all ...

You need cables that are rated at 50 Ohm. Typically LMR200 is ok up to 20'; I prefer no more than 10'. LMR400 cables are decent up to 50'. BUT the shorter the better. I would buy LMR400 cables for 5 feet to be honest.

thewirelesshaven.com has cables, and can get custom cables made for you as well ...

Need this exact stats with roof and antennas in same post. Yes you said you have stronger signal but did you quality go bad?

That post above is with the router on the roof with standard antennas. Ill do a couple more tests tomorrow with different antenna setups and post results. And, yes ...

Thanks guys for responding and trying to help me. Honestly, I thought I was a smart guy… until I read the last couple post. I have no idea what any of that is. Does anyone sell all of that you described already assembled and ready to go for my Verizon sim?

Danny

No doubt, its a lot to take in ...

Do you have any suggestions that is affordable, works great, and will last me for a bit?

I would suggest getting the most you can possibly get out of the Mofi and then reassess. You will learn a lot as you gain experience with it and build your knowledge base. You will then be in a better ...

I think the power and supply idea has gotten taken out of context.

These routers are run with 12Watt to 48Watt power supplies in most cases. You can upgrade to more, but generally do dont see more than 12V 4A power supplies for these.

That said, upwards of POE++ 48V-78W poe injectors like: https ...

It depends on your location, where I am at its a strong band and with the 7411, I'm seeing it carrier aggregate with Band 2 and 66 giving it quite a boost. I have noticed better tree/forest penetration on band 71 than band 12. Also I have found Band 12 to always be saturated due to the number of ...

Sure sounds like you have it narrowed down to congestion fore sure. I've used many of the MVNO's along with prepaid and postpaid accounts with the 3 main carriers but never the vzw tablet plan. I do have vzw prepaid line but honestly i've never noticed any throttling on any of them at my location ...

If you not ever seeing the "congestion" on the phone but are seeing it on the modem device then verizon is likely seeing your plan as a tethered data type plan. Phones use a different data type unless of course they are tethered. In THEORY changing the ttl should make your modem device look like a ...

Beginners Guide to Fixed-location Cellular internet
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?t=1286

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